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Truly, what have we gained from this?

There are countless cries out that this bill is an impediment on the freedom of speech. I agree. I have disagreed with the bill from the beginning. However, since there was no way of stopping it, I looked to other matters. It got people like you and countless others to read about it and write about it. It also got me thinking about something else and researching. I have a blog dedicated to this, the title literally being “What have we gained?” We gained equality in the eyes of the law. For, none are allowed to deny the holocaust of the Jews. None can dare say it was not a massacre of an entire race. The same way, given the primary evidence, the Armenian Genocide cannot be denied be denied now.

I don’t feign to understand politics, nor am I naive enough to believe my people mean anything to the world. We are not cheap labour for Western factories, we are not an oil fountain, we own no nuclear power or sea access required for the world’s trade. We are a small country, so air travel is no problem either. We’re rather insignificant. That is the only reason I smile at the bill right now. Freedoms are an illusion; governments already control our every move and thought. Well, governments control media, and media controls access to information vital to the nourishment of the mind. In the West, no one knows or cares about the Middle East or the Far East. The information that filters through incites fear against the unknown. We would be kidding ourselves if we trusted that our governments give us freedom of anything. They give us enough to create the maya, the illusion. They then happily conduct their affairs, ones unbeknownst to the people who naively accept what is given without question. The bill in itself might violate a “law”, but that law was never in place as it is. Right now, it simply equalizes the lack of freedom of speech, removing another obstacle` discrimination.

French Hold True to Their Word and Pass Law Criminalizing the Denial of the Armenian Genocide

Amidst songs calling for the children to awaken with “Zartir Lao” (which coincidentally.. or not… was one that Turks had “Turkified” and used for their own purposes) and proud displays of Armenian and French patriotism, the descendants of the survivors of the Armenian Genocide celebrate not simply the law in itself, but the fact that for once, a country held true to its promises. Until the last moment, Armenians were wary, knowing from past experience that to have any hope would be simple naivete. With 237 votes to be cast, 24 abstentions and 86 opposing, the denial of the Armenian Genocide was made into a criminal offence with 127 voting for the legislation.

Nearly 7 hours later, the French finally gave their final speeches and final votes. The hours had passed too slow and throughout the whole time, over 2000 had been watching the proceedings live through Yerkir Media’s page.

The Final Vote

During the entire time, ANCA had a step by step update on the proceedings. Over the 6-7 hours, the speeches made this clear:

  • Jean-Claude Gaudin, Senator, Mayor of Marseille and President of the UMP Parliamentary Group strongly supports the bill.
  • Sen. Tasca of the Socialist party against the measure.
  • Former Senate President Poncelet (UMP) argued against the law, along with Communist Party member Robert Hue. Poncelet argues that the law could affect the strategic French relationship with Turkey. He had opposed the Armenian Genocide resolution in 2001. Sen. Hue argues that the Senate should not be “writing” history.
  • Mr. Patrick Ollier, the government’s liaison to the parliament, is opposed the measure, and thereby support the law criminalizing Genocide denial.
  • Sen. Natacha Bouchart of the UMP party opposed the motion and speaking in support of the law.
  • Sen. Baylet argued against the law criminalizing Genocide denial.
  • Sen. Nicole Borvo Cohen-Seat from the Communist party speaking in favor of the law criminalizing Genocide denial.
  • Sen. Jean-Vincent PLACÉ of the Green party (ECOLO) spoke against the law, arguing that it is a dangerous precedent.
  • Socialist Sen. Kaltenbach offered the party’s support for the measure .
  • Govt. liaison to Parliament Patrick Ollier spoke in favor of the law, offering responses to each Senator who spoke in opposition of the measure.
  • Sen. Sophie Joissains of the UMP party spoke in favor of the law and against the committee vote last week.
  • Chairman M. Jean-Pierre Sueur argued that Gayssot law which criminalizes Holocaust denial is different because the Holocaust is internationally recognized as a result of the Nuremberg trials, etc. As such it is constitutional. He continued arguing that passing this law will open the pandora’s box of discussion on various genocides and massacres and France may be labeling as genocide terrible acts whose historical facts are questionable. Sen. Sueur is arguing that there is a difference between French affirmation of the Holocaust and the Armenian Genocide – basically stating that the Holocaust is “more” recognized because of the Nuremberg trials and broader international recognition.
  • Sen Ambroise Dupont of the UMP party opposed the measure. He is chair of the France-Azerbaijan parliamentary friendship committee. He argues that passage if the measure will affect France’s ability to mediate the NKR conflict.
  • Sen. Bernard Piras of the Socialist party supporting the measure.
  • Sen. Nathalie Goulet of the Radikal UCR party opposed the measure. Goulet, who is of French Turkish origin, participated in pro-Turkey supporter rallies over the weekend.
  • Sen. Jean-Vincent Place of the Green party opposed the measure. The Green party had expressed its opposition to the law prior to today’s discussion.
  • Sen. Bruno Gilles of the UMP party spoke in favor if the measure.
  • Sen. Luc Carvounas of the Socialist party argued for the law. Carvounas nitrate that the law criminaLizing Holocaust denial has not curtailed academic discourse on the topic.
  • Sen. Phillippe Kaltenbach of the Socialist party spoke in favor of the measure. The Socialists are the majority party in the French Senate.
  • Sen. Herve Marseille representing the Centrist party (UCR) echoed the French govt position outlined by Mr. Ollier earlier, noting that it will be a useful law to fight denial.
  • Sen. Esther Benbassa if the Green Party opposed the law, arguing that it would curtail academic discussion on the issue. 
  • Sen. Roger Karoutchi of Sarkozy’s UMP party spoke in favor of the measure, arguing that France has recognized two genocides- the Holocaust and Armenian Genocide. Denial of one is criminalized, and the other is not. We need to have one response to genocide, and this law seeks to do that.
  • Sen. Jacques Mezard of the Radical party opposes the resolution, echoing the legal committee’s argument that the law is unconstitutional.
  • Sen. Isabel Pasquet representing the Communist party questions the timing of the resolution, arguing that it is simply to secure the Armenian vote. However, she expresses her party’s support for the law because genocide denial should be criminalized, in principle.
  • Sen. Jean-Pierre Sueur speaks against the measure, representing the Senate committee on laws decision to vote down the law last week.

Successes according to the ANCA page:

Step 1 – SUCCESS: With a vote of 86 YES and 187 NO, the Senate votes down the Committee vote last week against the law criminalizing Genocide Denial. This lifts the first and main hurdle to final Senate passage of the law.

Step 2 – SUCCESS: With a vote of 81 YES and 171 NO, the Senate votes down the second motion of the day – which was against passage of the law criminalizing Genocide denial.

Step 3 – Success: The first amendment of the day was voted down by a vote of 42 YES and 116 NO. Now discussions continue about the actual articles of the legislation.

Success #4 and #5: With a vote of 86 NO and 120 YES, the amendment to article 1 is voted down, and by an agreement of the Senators regarding the voting process, both Articles 1 and 2 of the law criminalizing Genocide denial has been adopted. NOW, the Senators will discuss the legislation as a whole, and give a final vote on the complete measure.

No matter what anyone’s views on the bill, it is impossible to say that this bill wasn’t an immense victory on the part of the Armenian community in the diaspora. We may be divided for the most part, but when it comes to issued that affect the whole of the Armenian nation, we unite to conquer adversity. Congratulations to Sarkozy for proving he’s a man of his word and congratulations to the Armenian lobby for obtaining a huge victory.

source: ANCA’s FB page- https://www.facebook.com/ancagrassroots